When do you require a PDP / PrDP licence?

I was recently in a discussion with friends over when one actually needs a PDP licence? One of them is a missionary who often transports people around in one of the church’s Quantums. Investigating the situation it all comes down to how you want to define certain things. The following is the simplest breakdown to determine if you need one or not:

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The biggest thing to decide is on the concept of paying customers. Certain websites state it as “a motor vehicle used for the conveyance of persons for reward” and others as “other vehicle carrying paying passengers”. These are two very different topics. In my friend’s case, the passengers aren’t paying, but she may be receiving remuneration for her work at the church and such as is required to drive the mini-bus as part of her duties, thus she would fall in this category.

If we look at the regulation itself:

National Road Traffic Act, 1996 – National Road Traffic Regulations, 1999 – Chapter V: Fitenss of Drivers – Part IV: Professional Driving Permit – 115: Certain drivers of certain vehicles to hold professional driving permit

1) Subject to the provisions of subregulation (2), a professional driving permit shall be held by the driver of –

… e) a motor vehicle used for the conveyance of persons for  reward …

Thus if she is being remunerated for her work she would probably require one. It also explains why on sports tours at university we didn’t require one, as we were not being paid for driving.

Other things to note:

  • The currently used Professional Driving Permit (PrDP) is the continuation of the old Public Driving Permit (PDP) which was used pre 1998 and excluded certain provisions which are now included under the PrDP.
  • Price will vary with time.
  • A D (dangerous goods) licence includes a G (goods) licence.
  • One can hold both a P (people) and G, or P and D PrDP licence at the same time.
  • The minimum age for a PrDP licence is 18 for a G licence, 21 for a P licence, and 25 for a D licence.
  • If it’s a goods vehicle under 3.5 tons, it does not require a PrDP.
  • If it’s a vehicle of any size used to carry passengers for reward, or has 12 or more seats, a PrDP is required.
  • Almost all vehicles over 3.5 tons will require a PrDP, either for carrying passengers or as a goods vehicle. This is irrelevant of whether you are transporting goods or passengers at the time or not.
  • A vehicle over 3.5 tons, but is not a goods vehicle, does not require a PrDP. I’ve seen several people make mention of the Ford F250 and how traffic officer’s have demanded a PrDP. According to the law it is not required unless it can be defined as a goods vehicle. It does however require a C1 (old code 10) or higher licence.

This opens another discussion on the definition of goods vehicle. The RTA defines goods as

any movable property

and a goods vehicle as

a motor vehicle, other than a motorcycle, motor tricycle, motor quadrucycle, motorcar, minibus or bus, designed or adapted for the conveyance of goods on a public road and includes a truck-tractor, adaptor dolly, converter dolly and breakdown vehicle

Which is very vague, so people who get fines for their F250 should probably just right a nice letter trying to explain how their vehicle is a private vehicle and should not fall under the definition of a goods vehicle.

To get a PrDP you must also not have been convicted of certain crimes within the space of 5 years (NRTA):

if the applicant has, within a period of five years prior to the date of the application, been convicted of or has paid an admission of guilt on –
i)    driving a motor vehicle while under the influence of intoxicating liquor or a drug having a narcotic effect;
ii)    driving a motor vehicle while the concentration of alcohol in his or her blood exceeded a statutory limitation;
iii)    reckless driving; or
iv)    in the case of an application for a category “P” and “D” permit, an offence of which violence was an element;

With regards to foreign/international/overseas driver’s licences, the exact law is unclear and interpreted differently. My interpretation of the NRTA (specific section) matches Fleetwatch here. If you wish to drive a vehicle that requires a PrDP, you either need a South African licence with a PrDP, or you need a licence from a prescribed country with their equivalent of the PrDP (for example Zimbabwe’s Defensive Driving Licence). If you have a licence from any other country you are not permitted to drive such a vehicle.

This is however countered by the AA in this response of their’s in which they essentially state that if you are allowed to drive a PrDP vehicle in your country, you can drive it in SA.

Please note, I am in no way an expert with regards to traffic laws or any related topic, I am merely laying out the information as I’ve found it, all comments below are also given with a view from the facts I know, always enquire at your local traffic department when uncertain.

624 thoughts on “When do you require a PDP / PrDP licence?

  1. Hi Gareth, my wife is going on a school camp. She is transporting the students in a Ford Transit mini bus. Doess she need a pdp to transport them?

    • Hi Jaco, it depends. Is your wife a teacher, or are you parents and she’s just helping out? Is she receiving remuneration for driving / is it part of her job responsibilities?
      Additionally, the Ford Transit appears to come in different variants. How many seats does the variant your wife will be driving have?
      Use the answers to these questions and the flow chart at the top of this page to determine.

    • Yes you can. You can have a PrDP regardless of what licence you have.
      PrDPs are dependant on age, medical fitness and criminal record.

  2. I want to transport 4 scholars, distance about 25 km in moring and 25 in afternoon. Only have code 08 EC What do I need for this. Lady driver.

    • Please read the article before asking questions:

      The minimum age for a PrDP licence is 18 for a G licence, 21 for a P licence, and 25 for a D licence.

    • Hey Johann, it’s complicated. The MPS300 is by all definitions a goods vehicle, thus requiring a PrDP-G, however you’re not using it as a goods vehicle. Your variant has been kitted out as a camper. By the letter of the law, you probably don’t need a PrDP. That doesn’t mean you cops won’t disagree with you, arguing that becaues it’s above 3.5 tons it requires one.

      You definitely need a C1 licence or greate, but shouldn’t require a PrDP. I do advise getting second opinion though, preferably from a traffic officer.

  3. Good Day

    Just wanted to know our company has a Quantum it uses to transport permanent staff to site as we are currently in the Northern Cape but we are actually from the Western Cape. Once in a while my manager sends me to town (about 40km`s away) with the Quantum. Do i need a PDP to drive the Qauntum to town or when i am going to town to pick someone up from the bus etc. i have a code 8 B licence

    Please advise accordingly

    • Hey Jonathen
      There are two reasons you may need a PrDP:
      1) If the Quantum has seating for more than 12 people, including the driver, then you require a PrDP (even if you are driving alone).
      2) If you are picking up someone from the bus as part of your job responsibilities, then you are transporting people for reward, requiring a PrDP.

  4. Good dayk
    I have a criminal record,of damaged of property and it happen in 2011.is it possible to get PrDP for transport of people with a taxi?

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