I was recently in a discussion with friends over when one actually needs a PDP licence? One of them is a missionary who often transports people around in one of the church’s Quantums. Investigating the situation it all comes down to how you want to define certain things. The following is the simplest breakdown to determine if you need one or not:
The biggest thing to decide is on the concept of paying customers. Certain websites state it as “a motor vehicle used for the conveyance of persons for reward” and others as “other vehicle carrying paying passengers”. These are two very different topics. In my friend’s case, the passengers aren’t paying, but she may be receiving remuneration for her work at the church and such as is required to drive the mini-bus as part of her duties, thus she would fall in this category.
If we look at the regulation itself:
National Road Traffic Act, 1996 – National Road Traffic Regulations, 1999 – Chapter V: Fitenss of Drivers – Part IV: Professional Driving Permit – 115: Certain drivers of certain vehicles to hold professional driving permit
1) Subject to the provisions of subregulation (2), a professional driving permit shall be held by the driver of –
… e) a motor vehicle used for the conveyance of persons for reward …
Thus if she is being remunerated for her work she would probably require one. It also explains why on sports tours at university we didn’t require one, as we were not being paid for driving.
Other things to note:
- The currently used Professional Driving Permit (PrDP) is the continuation of the old Public Driving Permit (PDP) which was used pre 1998 and excluded certain provisions which are now included under the PrDP.
- Price will vary with time.
- A D (dangerous goods) licence includes a G (goods) licence.
- One can hold both a P (people) and G, or P and D PrDP licence at the same time.
- The minimum age for a PrDP licence is 18 for a G licence, 21 for a P licence, and 25 for a D licence.
- If it’s a goods vehicle under 3.5 tons, it does not require a PrDP.
- If it’s a vehicle of any size used to carry passengers for reward, or has 12 or more seats, a PrDP is required.
- Almost all vehicles over 3.5 tons will require a PrDP, either for carrying passengers or as a goods vehicle. This is irrelevant of whether you are transporting goods or passengers at the time or not.
- A vehicle over 3.5 tons, but is not a goods vehicle, does not require a PrDP. I’ve seen several people make mention of the Ford F250 and how traffic officer’s have demanded a PrDP. According to the law it is not required unless it can be defined as a goods vehicle. It does however require a C1 (old code 10) or higher licence.
This opens another discussion on the definition of goods vehicle. The RTA defines goods as
any movable property
and a goods vehicle as
a motor vehicle, other than a motorcycle, motor tricycle, motor quadrucycle, motorcar, minibus or bus, designed or adapted for the conveyance of goods on a public road and includes a truck-tractor, adaptor dolly, converter dolly and breakdown vehicle
Which is very vague, so people who get fines for their F250 should probably just right a nice letter trying to explain how their vehicle is a private vehicle and should not fall under the definition of a goods vehicle.
To get a PrDP you must also not have been convicted of certain crimes within the space of 5 years (NRTA):
if the applicant has, within a period of five years prior to the date of the application, been convicted of or has paid an admission of guilt on –
i) driving a motor vehicle while under the influence of intoxicating liquor or a drug having a narcotic effect;
ii) driving a motor vehicle while the concentration of alcohol in his or her blood exceeded a statutory limitation;
iii) reckless driving; or
iv) in the case of an application for a category “P” and “D” permit, an offence of which violence was an element;
With regards to foreign/international/overseas driver’s licences, the exact law is unclear and interpreted differently. My interpretation of the NRTA (specific section) matches Fleetwatch here. If you wish to drive a vehicle that requires a PrDP, you either need a South African licence with a PrDP, or you need a licence from a prescribed country with their equivalent of the PrDP (for example Zimbabwe’s Defensive Driving Licence). If you have a licence from any other country you are not permitted to drive such a vehicle.
This is however countered by the AA in this response of their’s in which they essentially state that if you are allowed to drive a PrDP vehicle in your country, you can drive it in SA.
Please note, I am in no way an expert with regards to traffic laws or any related topic, I am merely laying out the information as I’ve found it, all comments below are also given with a view from the facts I know, always enquire at your local traffic department when uncertain.
Do you need a PDP license to drive a tuk tuk at a event?
Hi Karen. What do you mean by at an event? If you’re on private property one does not require a drivers licence. If it’s an event and you’re concerned about insurance check with broker on requirements. A tuk tuk is generally considered a motor bike and thus an A or A1 licence is required.
I have (code10) C1 and i used to drive my H1 haudai 9 seater including driver, so does it require PDP?
It depends why you’re driving it. If you’re transporting people for reward then you do require one. If not, just family or without passengers then you don’t
I would like to know does VIP Protectors needs to have PDP licences in order for them to execute their duties daily of moving their principal all over the provinces?
If you’re being hired as a body guard and need to drive them as part of your job, you require a PrDP.
Do I need a pdp when I drive a tow truck as a business
yes. it’s written right there at the top of the article “is it a breakdown vehicle”
Good day if the man driving a Scania R144 530 truck . he have the following Zimbabwe International Driving Permit and a zimbabwe drivers Licence does he needs a PDP.
To drive goods vehicles in south Africa he needs a PrDP or the Zimbabwean equivalent which is a “defensive driving licence”
Hi there
I have a normal Code B license. I wished to know if I need any other permit to drive a 10 seater and a 14 seater (both with GVM< 3500) , for the purpose of holiday with friends and family. Thank you. This forum is quite useful.
For the 14 seater you will require a PrDP.
Is it possible to apply for both passengers and goods permit at the same time. I have code 10
If you apply for a P category PrDP it also permits the driving of G vehicles.
Hi can i drive a 3500 ton hyundai truck with a temporary pdp while waiting on on my card
A temporary one is as good as the actual card
Thanks Gareth u are such a good person
What permit or licence is neede to drive a TLB on a public road
Normal rules apply. Vehicle must be Roadworthy and licensed. Driver must have PrDP and valid licence for the GVM of the tlb