When do you require a PDP / PrDP licence?

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I was recently in a discussion with friends over when one actually needs a PDP licence? One of them is a missionary who often transports people around in one of the church’s Quantums. Investigating the situation it all comes down to how you want to define certain things. The following is the simplest breakdown to determine if you need one or not:

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The biggest thing to decide is on the concept of paying customers. Certain websites state it as “a motor vehicle used for the conveyance of persons for reward” and others as “other vehicle carrying paying passengers”. These are two very different topics. In my friend’s case, the passengers aren’t paying, but she may be receiving remuneration for her work at the church and such as is required to drive the mini-bus as part of her duties, thus she would fall in this category.

If we look at the regulation itself:

National Road Traffic Act, 1996 – National Road Traffic Regulations, 1999 – Chapter V: Fitenss of Drivers – Part IV: Professional Driving Permit – 115: Certain drivers of certain vehicles to hold professional driving permit

1) Subject to the provisions of subregulation (2), a professional driving permit shall be held by the driver of –

… e) a motor vehicle used for the conveyance of persons for  reward …

Thus if she is being remunerated for her work she would probably require one. It also explains why on sports tours at university we didn’t require one, as we were not being paid for driving.

Other things to note:

  • The currently used Professional Driving Permit (PrDP) is the continuation of the old Public Driving Permit (PDP) which was used pre 1998 and excluded certain provisions which are now included under the PrDP.
  • Price will vary with time.
  • A D (dangerous goods) licence includes a G (goods) licence.
  • One can hold both a P (people) and G, or P and D PrDP licence at the same time.
  • The minimum age for a PrDP licence is 18 for a G licence, 21 for a P licence, and 25 for a D licence.
  • If it’s a goods vehicle under 3.5 tons, it does not require a PrDP.
  • If it’s a vehicle of any size used to carry passengers for reward, or has 12 or more seats, a PrDP is required.
  • Almost all vehicles over 3.5 tons will require a PrDP, either for carrying passengers or as a goods vehicle. This is irrelevant of whether you are transporting goods or passengers at the time or not.
  • A vehicle over 3.5 tons, but is not a goods vehicle, does not require a PrDP. I’ve seen several people make mention of the Ford F250 and how traffic officer’s have demanded a PrDP. According to the law it is not required unless it can be defined as a goods vehicle. It does however require a C1 (old code 10) or higher licence.

This opens another discussion on the definition of goods vehicle. The RTA defines goods as

any movable property

and a goods vehicle as

a motor vehicle, other than a motorcycle, motor tricycle, motor quadrucycle, motorcar, minibus or bus, designed or adapted for the conveyance of goods on a public road and includes a truck-tractor, adaptor dolly, converter dolly and breakdown vehicle

Which is very vague, so people who get fines for their F250 should probably just right a nice letter trying to explain how their vehicle is a private vehicle and should not fall under the definition of a goods vehicle.

To get a PrDP you must also not have been convicted of certain crimes within the space of 5 years (NRTA):

if the applicant has, within a period of five years prior to the date of the application, been convicted of or has paid an admission of guilt on –
i)    driving a motor vehicle while under the influence of intoxicating liquor or a drug having a narcotic effect;
ii)    driving a motor vehicle while the concentration of alcohol in his or her blood exceeded a statutory limitation;
iii)    reckless driving; or
iv)    in the case of an application for a category “P” and “D” permit, an offence of which violence was an element;

With regards to foreign/international/overseas driver’s licences, the exact law is unclear and interpreted differently. My interpretation of the NRTA (specific section) matches Fleetwatch here. If you wish to drive a vehicle that requires a PrDP, you either need a South African licence with a PrDP, or you need a licence from a prescribed country with their equivalent of the PrDP (for example Zimbabwe’s Defensive Driving Licence). If you have a licence from any other country you are not permitted to drive such a vehicle.

This is however countered by the AA in this response of their’s in which they essentially state that if you are allowed to drive a PrDP vehicle in your country, you can drive it in SA.

Please note, I am in no way an expert with regards to traffic laws or any related topic, I am merely laying out the information as I’ve found it, all comments below are also given with a view from the facts I know, always enquire at your local traffic department when uncertain.

764 thoughts on “When do you require a PDP / PrDP licence?”

  1. Hi Gareth,
    We work on a Poultry Farm in Gauteng and are in the process of purchasing a horse and trail. The owner want so know when he is going to the Cape to collect the trailer, which is build there to specification, does he need a PrPD or not? As he currently is in possession of an EC Drivers licence without the PrPD. Only after the collection of the trailer, it will be used for business purposes only.
    Your comment is awaited with anticipation.

    • Hi Andre

      Regardless of whether he will be driving for the company or not, if you are driving a goods vehicle (by your description I assume it would be classified as a goods vehicle), you require a PrDP. So if he will be driving the vehicle from Cape Town to Gauteng he will require a PrDP, regardless of whether the vehicle is loaded or not.

  3. I’m 19 years old and recently acquired a code 8 driver’s license and was told I don’t need any sort of driving permit as I’m not 21 yet however I do still want a goods permit. So I wanted to ask if I get a PDP will they redo my license so as to take mew photos as I hate the existing photo anyway or will they just stick something on the license to show I have a permit?

    • You get a new licence card which specifies that you have a PrDP licence.
      But that’s quite a waste of money to get a new licence just to get a new photo.

  4. hi gareth

    I applyed for PrDP last week so how long must i wait for confirming sms that my fingerprints have been cleared by afiswitch?

  5. Hi there i was arrested 4 drink n driving but was not convicted i wont 2 nou wil i get n pdp please help me on that

  7. Ey Gareth, I am a holder of code EC , do I need a PrDP for a Taxi tht Carries 15 people?

  8. Hi Gareth
    I have a drivers license card that expires in December this year and a licence card with my pdp which expires in 2017 so do I need to renew my licence in December or does the pdp count as my new drivers licsence

    • When they gave you your PrDP they should have taken in your old licence. So if you have a licence valid till 2017 which allows you to drive the vehicle you need to drive, no need to renew.

      • Thanks for your response but does that mean my licence needs to be renewed every 2 years along with my pdp renewal?

        • In two years time when your PrDP expires, you can renew that licence card for another 5 years, or renew the PrDP for another 2 years. You have to choose.

          • Great thank you very much
            you have been a great help and saved me the headache of trying to aquire this info via a traffic department official. ;->

  9. Hi Gareth,
    The company I work for has a game lodge with an 11 seater (driver excluded) game drive vehicle and were wondering what qualifications one needed to drive that. I understood that a PrDP and at least a FGASA Level 1 Field Guide qualification is needed because it is in a Big 5 area – Is this correct?

    • Hi Avryll, as you mentioned you do need a PrDP because you are transporting people for reward. Secondly you’d most likely need a C code driver’s licence depending on the vehicles GVM. As for your FGASA, I’m not aware of this licencing. Not my field of expertise :)

      • Thanks Gareth. I have in the meantime ascertained from Dinokeng that you do indeed need to have at least a FGHASA Level 1 Field Guide qualification to take guests out in a Big Five Resort.

  10. Gareth
    I would like to know something. We are going on a softball tour early December but this has got nothing to do with the school. We are only borrowing the schools quantum bus. I am a teacher for the school. We are not getting paid and have to pay everything ourselves. My husband is going to drive. Does he need to apply for pdp licence and how long does it usually take we only have 4 weeks left before we are leaving

    • Hi Lieze

      You shouldn’t need a PrDP for this (but check with the school’s Insurance that they cover non PrDP drivers). I don’t know exactly how long it takes to get a PrDP, but I think 4 weeks is a bit tight.
      However, it does depend on the vehicle you are driving. If the vehicle is able to seat 12 or more people, then you are required to have a PrDP regardless of whether you are being paid or not.

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