I was recently in a discussion with friends over when one actually needs a PDP licence? One of them is a missionary who often transports people around in one of the church’s Quantums. Investigating the situation it all comes down to how you want to define certain things. The following is the simplest breakdown to determine if you need one or not:
The biggest thing to decide is on the concept of paying customers. Certain websites state it as “a motor vehicle used for the conveyance of persons for reward” and others as “other vehicle carrying paying passengers”. These are two very different topics. In my friend’s case, the passengers aren’t paying, but she may be receiving remuneration for her work at the church and such as is required to drive the mini-bus as part of her duties, thus she would fall in this category.
If we look at the regulation itself:
National Road Traffic Act, 1996 – National Road Traffic Regulations, 1999 – Chapter V: Fitenss of Drivers – Part IV: Professional Driving Permit – 115: Certain drivers of certain vehicles to hold professional driving permit
1) Subject to the provisions of subregulation (2), a professional driving permit shall be held by the driver of –
… e) a motor vehicle used for the conveyance of persons for reward …
Thus if she is being remunerated for her work she would probably require one. It also explains why on sports tours at university we didn’t require one, as we were not being paid for driving.
Other things to note:
- The currently used Professional Driving Permit (PrDP) is the continuation of the old Public Driving Permit (PDP) which was used pre 1998 and excluded certain provisions which are now included under the PrDP.
- Price will vary with time.
- A D (dangerous goods) licence includes a G (goods) licence.
- One can hold both a P (people) and G, or P and D PrDP licence at the same time.
- The minimum age for a PrDP licence is 18 for a G licence, 21 for a P licence, and 25 for a D licence.
- If it’s a goods vehicle under 3.5 tons, it does not require a PrDP.
- If it’s a vehicle of any size used to carry passengers for reward, or has 12 or more seats, a PrDP is required.
- Almost all vehicles over 3.5 tons will require a PrDP, either for carrying passengers or as a goods vehicle. This is irrelevant of whether you are transporting goods or passengers at the time or not.
- A vehicle over 3.5 tons, but is not a goods vehicle, does not require a PrDP. I’ve seen several people make mention of the Ford F250 and how traffic officer’s have demanded a PrDP. According to the law it is not required unless it can be defined as a goods vehicle. It does however require a C1 (old code 10) or higher licence.
This opens another discussion on the definition of goods vehicle. The RTA defines goods as
any movable property
and a goods vehicle as
a motor vehicle, other than a motorcycle, motor tricycle, motor quadrucycle, motorcar, minibus or bus, designed or adapted for the conveyance of goods on a public road and includes a truck-tractor, adaptor dolly, converter dolly and breakdown vehicle
Which is very vague, so people who get fines for their F250 should probably just right a nice letter trying to explain how their vehicle is a private vehicle and should not fall under the definition of a goods vehicle.
To get a PrDP you must also not have been convicted of certain crimes within the space of 5 years (NRTA):
if the applicant has, within a period of five years prior to the date of the application, been convicted of or has paid an admission of guilt on –
i) driving a motor vehicle while under the influence of intoxicating liquor or a drug having a narcotic effect;
ii) driving a motor vehicle while the concentration of alcohol in his or her blood exceeded a statutory limitation;
iii) reckless driving; or
iv) in the case of an application for a category “P” and “D” permit, an offence of which violence was an element;
With regards to foreign/international/overseas driver’s licences, the exact law is unclear and interpreted differently. My interpretation of the NRTA (specific section) matches Fleetwatch here. If you wish to drive a vehicle that requires a PrDP, you either need a South African licence with a PrDP, or you need a licence from a prescribed country with their equivalent of the PrDP (for example Zimbabwe’s Defensive Driving Licence). If you have a licence from any other country you are not permitted to drive such a vehicle.
This is however countered by the AA in this response of their’s in which they essentially state that if you are allowed to drive a PrDP vehicle in your country, you can drive it in SA.
Please note, I am in no way an expert with regards to traffic laws or any related topic, I am merely laying out the information as I’ve found it, all comments below are also given with a view from the facts I know, always enquire at your local traffic department when uncertain.
If you a transporting Low Hazardous Goods do you still need a PrDP with D & G or just a G.
I don’t know the details on Low Hazard Goods, this last question on this article seems to indicate that you don’t: https://www.hazchemwize.co.za/faq/
Hi I need to know was it fair to be charged R2000 for having an expired pdp while I’m driving alone not transporting any body,my uber used vehicle.
Was your just your PrDP expired, or your entire licence? Additionally what kind of vehicle were you driving. Some vehicles require a PrDP regardless of if you have passengers or not.
However if you were driving a normal light motor vehicle by yourself, there shouldn’t be any requirement for you to have a PrDP.
That being said, if you are driving for Uber you need to have a valid PrDP.
why don’t they give u a temporily pdp until u wait for your clearance?
Because otherwise people who fail the police clearance will have a valid pdp for several weeks/months until the clearance is returned (which they shouldn’t get).
I agree it is frustrating.
I work at a retirement village and I would like to know if our driver who is a resident needs a PrDP for driving other residents to places like the hospital and the mall?
Yes, because they are transporting people as part of their job, they require a PrDP.
I recently purchased a second hand Vito for private use. When it was registered, it was registered with an operators disc and has black and white number plates. It can only seat 8 passengers. Would I require a PrDP?
If you’re using it for personal use, and it is no longer registered with an operator’s disc, then you should not need a PrDP.
I am using it for personal use, but it was still registered with an operators disc when when purchased it.
I would confirm this with your local traffic department, but you should be able to remove the operators licence from the car, and drive it as normal.
The operators licence would have been required to use the vehicle to transport paying passengers. But if you are using it in a personal capacity is no longer required.
Hello if I have a code B licence do i qualify for a prdp?
A PrDP can be obtained with any driver’s licence code.
Does the Farmer that transports his own cattle to the local market needs a PDP or PA? He doesnt get rewarding as driver because it is his own lorry +above 35000kg) and his own goods???
Correction on lorry:. 3500kg
If it is a goods vehicle above 3,500kg being driven on public roads it should require a PrDP to drive. Specifically a G (Goods) PrDP.
The ‘for reward’ clause only applies to the passenger (P) based PrDP licences, so is not applicable in this case.
Will our driver of our company 1 ton bakkie carrying fabric require a PDP?
Typically, if the vehicle’s GVM is less than 3.5 tons, a PrDP is not required when only transporting goods.
If a driver from a company transports workers or tools to site do they need a pdp
If they are driving works to site they definitely need PrDP
I am a Bolt driver do I need a PrDP? I drive for rewards!! Which traffic department to go too? I already have pdp!!
If you are a Bolt Driver you legally require a PrDP. PDP is just the old term for a PrDP.
Would love to know I’m driving a small nissan ud 90 truck but its registered as a G.D “goods and dangerous goods” so i got pulled over while transporting food in it and my pdrp is G.P “passengers and goods” but got a ticket although i was transporting “goods” food.
Hi Gregory, what was the specific infraction referenced?
If you were transporting non-“dangerous goods”, and your vehicle’s placards indicated this, there shouldn’t have been an issue.