When do you require a PDP / PrDP licence?

I was recently in a discussion with friends over when one actually needs a PDP licence? One of them is a missionary who often transports people around in one of the church’s Quantums. Investigating the situation it all comes down to how you want to define certain things. The following is the simplest breakdown to determine if you need one or not:

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The biggest thing to decide is on the concept of paying customers. Certain websites state it as “a motor vehicle used for the conveyance of persons for reward” and others as “other vehicle carrying paying passengers”. These are two very different topics. In my friend’s case, the passengers aren’t paying, but she may be receiving remuneration for her work at the church and such as is required to drive the mini-bus as part of her duties, thus she would fall in this category.

If we look at the regulation itself:

National Road Traffic Act, 1996 – National Road Traffic Regulations, 1999 – Chapter V: Fitenss of Drivers – Part IV: Professional Driving Permit – 115: Certain drivers of certain vehicles to hold professional driving permit

1) Subject to the provisions of subregulation (2), a professional driving permit shall be held by the driver of –

… e) a motor vehicle used for the conveyance of persons for  reward …

Thus if she is being remunerated for her work she would probably require one. It also explains why on sports tours at university we didn’t require one, as we were not being paid for driving.

Other things to note:

  • The currently used Professional Driving Permit (PrDP) is the continuation of the old Public Driving Permit (PDP) which was used pre 1998 and excluded certain provisions which are now included under the PrDP.
  • Price will vary with time.
  • A D (dangerous goods) licence includes a G (goods) licence.
  • One can hold both a P (people) and G, or P and D PrDP licence at the same time.
  • The minimum age for a PrDP licence is 18 for a G licence, 21 for a P licence, and 25 for a D licence.
  • If it’s a goods vehicle under 3.5 tons, it does not require a PrDP.
  • If it’s a vehicle of any size used to carry passengers for reward, or has 12 or more seats, a PrDP is required.
  • Almost all vehicles over 3.5 tons will require a PrDP, either for carrying passengers or as a goods vehicle. This is irrelevant of whether you are transporting goods or passengers at the time or not.
  • A vehicle over 3.5 tons, but is not a goods vehicle, does not require a PrDP. I’ve seen several people make mention of the Ford F250 and how traffic officer’s have demanded a PrDP. According to the law it is not required unless it can be defined as a goods vehicle. It does however require a C1 (old code 10) or higher licence.

This opens another discussion on the definition of goods vehicle. The RTA defines goods as

any movable property

and a goods vehicle as

a motor vehicle, other than a motorcycle, motor tricycle, motor quadrucycle, motorcar, minibus or bus, designed or adapted for the conveyance of goods on a public road and includes a truck-tractor, adaptor dolly, converter dolly and breakdown vehicle

Which is very vague, so people who get fines for their F250 should probably just right a nice letter trying to explain how their vehicle is a private vehicle and should not fall under the definition of a goods vehicle.

To get a PrDP you must also not have been convicted of certain crimes within the space of 5 years (NRTA):

if the applicant has, within a period of five years prior to the date of the application, been convicted of or has paid an admission of guilt on –
i)    driving a motor vehicle while under the influence of intoxicating liquor or a drug having a narcotic effect;
ii)    driving a motor vehicle while the concentration of alcohol in his or her blood exceeded a statutory limitation;
iii)    reckless driving; or
iv)    in the case of an application for a category “P” and “D” permit, an offence of which violence was an element;

With regards to foreign/international/overseas driver’s licences, the exact law is unclear and interpreted differently. My interpretation of the NRTA (specific section) matches Fleetwatch here. If you wish to drive a vehicle that requires a PrDP, you either need a South African licence with a PrDP, or you need a licence from a prescribed country with their equivalent of the PrDP (for example Zimbabwe’s Defensive Driving Licence). If you have a licence from any other country you are not permitted to drive such a vehicle.

This is however countered by the AA in this response of their’s in which they essentially state that if you are allowed to drive a PrDP vehicle in your country, you can drive it in SA.

Please note, I am in no way an expert with regards to traffic laws or any related topic, I am merely laying out the information as I’ve found it, all comments below are also given with a view from the facts I know, always enquire at your local traffic department when uncertain.

764 thoughts on “When do you require a PDP / PrDP licence?

  1. Hi i was convicted 30 years back ,served a year sentence no traffic law issue.
    but am waiting for-ever for my prdp .Checked with my local traffic but they unhelpful ,the lady shouted you have a crimenal thing on your name you must wait.
    First time in all this time i am struggling to get helped ,i might loose my job.
    what can i do ?
    John

    • Hi John. Sorry I’m not sure what you can do. A conviction that long ago should not prevent you getting prdp. Is there not someone else at the traffic department you can speak to?

  2. My company transport our workers probably 5 workers on the back of a bakkie to and from work daily. Do we require a PDP licence? Lastly is it illegal to transport people on the back of bakkie?

  3. Hi,

    If conveying Dangerous Goods such as Explosives with a LDV with a GVM of less than 3500kg, does the driver require a PrDP – D?

  4. Okay im like really confused i work as a maintenance fitter, have a code b license, the bakkie is a hyundia h100 i drive to buy spares with it and sometimes i do deliveries with it, the bakkies has no operator disc just the normal license disc, some say i still need a prdp to drive it, but i was convicted of reckless driving before i had a license in 2014 but will it stop me from getting a goods prdp if i apply for one?

    • If you were convicted in 2014, it is unlikely you will be granted a PrDP until 2019.
      I don’t see why you need a PrDP for a vehicle under 3.5 tons though.

  5. I wanna know if I applied for PrDP and they find out I got ticket warrants, am I gone be able to get PrDP?

  6. I have a code 10 licences… On the 25 of March this year I want to drive my family to the game reserve with the family taxi. So i want to drive more than 14 people for that day only, do I need a PrDP for driving them on that day only?

  7. our compony has a minio bus les than 3.5 ton but 13 seats with les than 10 people in it does the driver need a pdp no one is getting any thing extra to drive it from a to b its only a veical used to go on training is a pdp needed

    • If the vehicle is able to seat 13 people you need a prdp regardless of how many people are actually being transported or if anyone is being paid or not.

  8. Hi i have a 60 year old driver that needs Prdp with a GD, to carry dangerous goods, will his age not be a problem

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