When do you require a PDP / PrDP licence?

I was recently in a discussion with friends over when one actually needs a PDP licence? One of them is a missionary who often transports people around in one of the church’s Quantums. Investigating the situation it all comes down to how you want to define certain things. The following is the simplest breakdown to determine if you need one or not:

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The biggest thing to decide is on the concept of paying customers. Certain websites state it as “a motor vehicle used for the conveyance of persons for reward” and others as “other vehicle carrying paying passengers”. These are two very different topics. In my friend’s case, the passengers aren’t paying, but she may be receiving remuneration for her work at the church and such as is required to drive the mini-bus as part of her duties, thus she would fall in this category.

If we look at the regulation itself:

National Road Traffic Act, 1996 – National Road Traffic Regulations, 1999 – Chapter V: Fitenss of Drivers – Part IV: Professional Driving Permit – 115: Certain drivers of certain vehicles to hold professional driving permit

1) Subject to the provisions of subregulation (2), a professional driving permit shall be held by the driver of –

… e) a motor vehicle used for the conveyance of persons for  reward …

Thus if she is being remunerated for her work she would probably require one. It also explains why on sports tours at university we didn’t require one, as we were not being paid for driving.

Other things to note:

  • The currently used Professional Driving Permit (PrDP) is the continuation of the old Public Driving Permit (PDP) which was used pre 1998 and excluded certain provisions which are now included under the PrDP.
  • Price will vary with time.
  • A D (dangerous goods) licence includes a G (goods) licence.
  • One can hold both a P (people) and G, or P and D PrDP licence at the same time.
  • The minimum age for a PrDP licence is 18 for a G licence, 21 for a P licence, and 25 for a D licence.
  • If it’s a goods vehicle under 3.5 tons, it does not require a PrDP.
  • If it’s a vehicle of any size used to carry passengers for reward, or has 12 or more seats, a PrDP is required.
  • Almost all vehicles over 3.5 tons will require a PrDP, either for carrying passengers or as a goods vehicle. This is irrelevant of whether you are transporting goods or passengers at the time or not.
  • A vehicle over 3.5 tons, but is not a goods vehicle, does not require a PrDP. I’ve seen several people make mention of the Ford F250 and how traffic officer’s have demanded a PrDP. According to the law it is not required unless it can be defined as a goods vehicle. It does however require a C1 (old code 10) or higher licence.

This opens another discussion on the definition of goods vehicle. The RTA defines goods as

any movable property

and a goods vehicle as

a motor vehicle, other than a motorcycle, motor tricycle, motor quadrucycle, motorcar, minibus or bus, designed or adapted for the conveyance of goods on a public road and includes a truck-tractor, adaptor dolly, converter dolly and breakdown vehicle

Which is very vague, so people who get fines for their F250 should probably just right a nice letter trying to explain how their vehicle is a private vehicle and should not fall under the definition of a goods vehicle.

To get a PrDP you must also not have been convicted of certain crimes within the space of 5 years (NRTA):

if the applicant has, within a period of five years prior to the date of the application, been convicted of or has paid an admission of guilt on –
i)    driving a motor vehicle while under the influence of intoxicating liquor or a drug having a narcotic effect;
ii)    driving a motor vehicle while the concentration of alcohol in his or her blood exceeded a statutory limitation;
iii)    reckless driving; or
iv)    in the case of an application for a category “P” and “D” permit, an offence of which violence was an element;

With regards to foreign/international/overseas driver’s licences, the exact law is unclear and interpreted differently. My interpretation of the NRTA (specific section) matches Fleetwatch here. If you wish to drive a vehicle that requires a PrDP, you either need a South African licence with a PrDP, or you need a licence from a prescribed country with their equivalent of the PrDP (for example Zimbabwe’s Defensive Driving Licence). If you have a licence from any other country you are not permitted to drive such a vehicle.

This is however countered by the AA in this response of their’s in which they essentially state that if you are allowed to drive a PrDP vehicle in your country, you can drive it in SA.

Please note, I am in no way an expert with regards to traffic laws or any related topic, I am merely laying out the information as I’ve found it, all comments below are also given with a view from the facts I know, always enquire at your local traffic department when uncertain.

764 thoughts on “When do you require a PDP / PrDP licence?

  1. Hellow Gareth plz help me I am working for s company for 4years now driving code 10 trucks and I was driving under the influece 3years back and now my prdp is expierd I dont want to loose my jop as now Im no longer drinking plz tell me what to do I was told to wait for 5 years but I have to work. What can I do to get my prdp

    • Hi Sithembele, sorry I can’t help. Generally you cannot get a PrDP if you have been convicted of a driving related crime in the past 5 years.

  2. Hy I hv a criminal record of stock theft I was sentenced 1year inprison and 4 years suspended so I can aply for prdp I have drivers licence?

    • most documents seem to say you’ll only have a problem if you have a driving related offence.

  3. if i have a code 8 licence and a prdp can i drive a 22 seater quantum with only a code 8 and my prdp or do i need to do my code 10

    • I think the 22 seater quantum weighs more than 3.5 tons so you will need a code 10. Not sure what its GVM is.

  4. what is the difference between, restriction on the licence and endorsement on the licence, or is the samething

    • Generally not, a restriction refers to requiring glasses or only manual vehicles etc. Typically an endorsement would be due to a negligent or reckless driving incident. Previously your ID book contained your driving licence, and thus an endorsement was placed on the licence page indicating that you were not permitted to drive or some other decision. These days, when your licence is endorsed, I believe they will generally seize your licence card, and you will be unable to have it reissued until the endorsement lapses.

  5. I just received my first driver’s licence and want to appply for PrDP as soon as possible. Can I apply for it while holding a temporal driver’s licence as I’m still waiting for my card or must I wait till my card is here then apply..

  6. hi i have criminal record of house breaking and theft and tresspasing,i want a prdp do i qualify?

  7. i hv lost my license so now i want to do it wth PDP this time thy would be no problem for that ? im in pongola and i hv to use it on sunday

    • if you previously had your PrDP, then you can just get your previous licence reissued. If you are applying for a new PrDP licence you will not get it in time for Sunday.

  8. I was involved in a motor vehicle accident ,I was the wrong one we went to court the laywer just advised me to plead guilty. I tried appling for a job and my prints showed that I had a record for reckles and neglegence I want to apply for a prdp will this be possible . The accident happed 2008 I got 5year suspension

    • according to the regulation you must not have been found guilty in the last five years, thus you should be able to get a PrDP

  9. We are wanting to obtain a Prdp for our Malawian driver to operate an Uber vehicle. He has a Malawian drivers licence. What steps do we need to take, and do we need an Operating Licence on top of that? Also who should we contact for 3rd party insurance.
    Thanks in advance for your advise

    • To get a PrDP you need a south african driver’s licence. Your driver will either have to get his licence converted, or take a south african driver’s test before getting a PrDP.
      I don’t know the details of operators licences unfortunately.
      Any insurance company should be able to provide third party insurance.

  10. Hi. I’ve got Toyota Verso with 7 seater , do I need to have a permit to load passengers?

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